Working Gringos
Editor's Update:
Now that the US election is over, we know more and more people are thinking that maybe living outside the United States would not be such a bad idea. We love the United States but we also think that living outside of it, for some amount of time or the rest of your life, is a great idea. Because there is nothing more refreshing than a new perspective. There's nothing that makes you feel younger like learning a new culture and language. There is really nothing that compares with going outside your comfort zone to explore new horizons and opportunities. With that in mind, here is what we were thinking and feeling ten years ago in 2006, four years after we moved out of the United States, four years before this happened.
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The following is the first of a series of interviews with expatriates living in the Yucatan. We decided that in all good faith we couldn't ask our friends and acquaintances to answer these questions if we hadn't answered them ourselves. So we are our first interviewees:
YL: When did you move to the Yucatan, where did you move from and why did you move here?
Working Gringos: We moved from California in January of 2002. We had recently lost our jobs at an Internet development company and were trying to start our own thing when the World Trade Center in New York was attacked. That put a stop to just about everyone's business development. For a long time nobody wanted a website and every business in our industry was laying off, not hiring. We had to find work and we had to move to find it.
We call ourselves dot bomb refugees.
We ruled out the San Francisco Bay area and other major technology centers because there was a surplus of workers and the cost of living there was too high. We ruled out Bakersfield and many other inexpensive places because, well..., if we need to explain then you wouldn't be reading this.
We finally decided to make a virtue of necessity and cast our net world-wide. Thanks to the worldwide web we could do that more easily than ever. We made a short list of what we wanted in a new home. Here it is:
1. A place were we can make a living
2. Beautiful house we can own outright
3. Tropical and/or European ambiance
4. Close to scuba diving
5. Learn a second language
6. Live more lightly on the planet (our private code phrase for "eco-friendly and cheap")
7. Be within a day's flight of our family
YL: Why did you choose Merida over other places in the world?
Working Gringos: It met all of our criteria and more. We've traveled around the world. We thought of Tuscany, Bali, Costa Rica, the island of Roatan, but none of these quite worked for us. The combination of Mayan, Spanish, Caribbean and Gulf cultures makes Merida unique. It's also the closest place to the United States that is the most unlike it. And you can make a living here and live for much less.
YL: Did you know you were going to be working when you moved here?
Working Gringos: Yes, we essentially moved our nascent Internet development company here, bringing all of our computer and photographic equipment with us. Besides, we're not sure what retirement looks like.
YL: Are you doing now what you intended to do when you moved here?
Working Gringos: We are doing more than we intended. We figured we would make a few websites for people, live on less, and give ourselves more free time. Wishful thinking. There has been much more demand for website development here than we anticipated, as well as photography.
YL: Did you buy a house right away or rent first? Do you think you made the right decision (either way)?
Working Gringos: We bought two houses. We found a renovated colonial-style house where we live now using the Internet. It was another reason we moved here. Another smaller house was recommended to us by the real estate agent here and we turned it into an office. Considering how much these properties have appreciated in value, we think we did the right thing by buying right away. But we do see the value in renting first and getting to know the area before making a commitment.
YL: Now that you live and work here, how do you like it?
Working Gringos: We're never bored!
YL: Would you ever go back?
Working Gringos: We go back at times to visit family. One of us would consider going back if we were suddenly left alone here... but we would always keep one foot here, even if we did go back. Mexico is home now too. We would rather have our family move here. Then there would be little or no reason to go back, except for the occasional bookstore craving (see below). But can you ever really go back? So much has changed in the U.S. since we left...
YL: What are the most striking differences between living here vs. living there (wherever you came from)?
Working Gringos: Socially, the Yucatan is a lot more forgiving. It feels like people here have more liberty, that there is a wider range of opinions and backgrounds. It's not as culturally homogenous. It's also very, very affordable. We were being "gentrified" out of our little town in California. But Yucatan, as Ry Cooder would say, "is a poor man's Shangri-La."
YL: What do you love about living here?
Working Gringos: Not pumping our own gas or having to compare gas prices (editor's note: well, everything changes and that has changed...), paying taxes monthly (it's so much easier), the people, music in the streets at night, tropical weather, weekends at the Caribbean, the diverse culture, the food, learning a new language, the VIP movie theater, our friends, the list goes on...
YL: What do you miss from your "former life"?
Working Gringos: Browsing in bookstores, Starbucks Gingerbread and Pumpkin Lattes (yes, we still think they taste better in the USA...), hiking in the mountains, ginger Altoids, huge selections of black tea at the grocery store, Trader Joe's... It's always something. But we've lived here long enough that when we're back in the States for very long we miss things like fresh habanero salsa, not looking over our shoulder all the time when we're driving (avoiding speeding or parking tickets), Yucatecan food, big piles of rocks. It's an ever-growing list... and there is something about the Yucatan that we miss when we're not here, but we can't put our finger on it. Must be the magic.
YL: What is it like owning and running a business here?
Working Gringos: It's easier than we expected. Demand is high and competition is low. If you're not engaged in a business that has a long tradition in Mexico, then your chances of success are pretty good. That's becoming less true, but we think it's still true.
There is some red tape at the beginning. You have to apply for and maintain the correct visa. You have to itemize any equipment you bring into the country and prove it was either taken back out or destroyed, in other words, that you didn't sell it and dodge import taxes. These days, we just buy our equipment here. Dell, Apple, Canon, etc. all service Mexico. You also need a good lawyer and accountant to watch your back. It's nearly impossible to understand Mexican tax law, but isn't that also true in California? It was for us; except our lawyer and accountant there charged us about 10 times more.
YL: Do you have to do more than one thing to make a living?
Working Gringos: Many people do. It's a tradition here to maintain many different sources of income in case one of them falls on hard times. It's Mexican job security. We probably have four or five different sources of income, but they are all related to marketing somehow.
YL: Do you work as much as you used to "back home" or are your work habits different here?
Working Gringos: We work more than ever. At the moment, it's like drinking from a fire hose. Some of the demand is probably related to the times we live in. The Internet was made for places like Yucatan, which is historically remote and unknown.
On the other hand, we don't have to work in a cubicle battling office politics in some sprawling corporation, wondering if what we're doing even makes a difference. The work here has been more fulfilling. And we can and do take a day off here and there to go exploring or to enjoy a long weekend on the Caribbean. We also seem to have more of a social life here than we did in California, because people take more time for friends and family and socializing here.
YL: Is Merida different for residents than it is for tourists?
Working Gringos: Yes, as residents we see a lot of different areas around Merida that tourists rarely visit. We see the modern side of Merida as well as the remote Mayan villages and "undiscovered" ruins, beaches and haciendas. We've been invited to many social, cultural and private events that tourists don't encounter.
YL: How is your Spanish?
Working Gringos: We're getting there. We can make it in almost any situation without a translator. We don't sound very good, but at least we can understand people and make ourselves understood most of the time. The people here are very helpful, too.
YL: Is the language barrier a problem for you in your day to day life?
Working Gringos: No, not a problem... an opportunity. Really! We learn so much more through the process of taking down the barrier. One interesting thing about the Yucatan is that the majority of people here speak Spanish as a second language. Their first language was Mayan!
YL: What is the one most important piece of advice you would give someone just moving to the Yucatan?
Working Gringos: Be open to magic... it lives here. And if you have a problem with ants, get over it.
YL: Are you a Mexican citizen?
Working Gringos: Not yet.
YL: If you aren't, do you think you will become one?
Working Gringos: Yes.
YL: Why would or wouldn't you?
Working Gringos: If one passport is good, two are better. And being a citizen means we don't have to do the visa renewal thing every year.
YL: How are you treated by Mexicans?
Working Gringos: Embarrassingly well, considering how we treat Mexicans in the United States.
YL: Do you feel resented or welcome?
Working Gringos: 99.99% welcome. While there may be more prejudice against strangers in the Mexican border towns, we don't feel anything like that here. We've even heard locals say that extranjeros treat Yucatecos better than they treat each other. We think that means we aren't as codo (cheap).
YL: What are your plans for the future here?
Working Gringos: One day at a time. The magic works better that way.
YL: Do you see yourself staying?
Working Gringos: Way'a no ne (why ah NO nay). It's Mayan for "here we are".
YL: Do you see your business growing?
Working Gringos: Only as much as we want it to. We'd like to work a little less and enjoy this city and country a little more. There is so much of Yucatan and Mexico left to discover!
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Yucatan Living followed this with many more expatriate interviews. Some of those people are still in Merida, some are not. We welcome your comments and any other questions that you have for the people living in the Yucatan.
Comments
DealMaker 16 years ago
I glue myself to your website every chance I get. While I am originally from Guatemala City, I have lived in Chicago for over 25 years, but there's always been a longing in my heart to live anywhere in the Yucatan. Things have changed dramatically in the corporate world and I am ready to move. I've had a career in sales and marketing for many years, but feel the time has come to do something new. I am fully bilingual and enjoy the warmth of Mexico and its people. I have traveled to many places, but there is something about the Yucatan. The "magic" of the beaches, the white sand and the friendly faces everywhere you go. I enjoy the peace I find when I walk the entire island of Isla Mujeres. When in Playa, I love my daily morning walks toward Cafe Corazon on 5a to enjoy fresh fruit and steaming hot coffee; where I meet the locals and the expats for a time to chat. I enjoy the sun, the beach and its sports during the day and then walking la 5a just before dinner only to find the excitement of daily Latin dancing at Mambo Cafe. Merida seems to have been the missing link, as I so much enjoy the arts, be it theatre, opera or concerts. I read about the Festival de Otono and how Placido Domingo was at Chichen Itza, the star studded skies above it. I can literally close my eyes and see this picture in my mind and feel that is what I should be doing, for life is so short and time so little. Thank you for the beautiful work you do in describing Merida and giving such details as to pricing information, medical and utility costs. Yours has been the most complete "guide" anyone can read. Hope to meet you soon.
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Jason 16 years ago
I found your website doing a Google search for Xtabentun. Great site!
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Jose Lara 16 years ago
So sorprice to know that in my state yucatan there is such a group of people who care and like the land I was born.thah make me feel so gratefull and lucky,to have them at my state yucatan, I for ucla. here in los angeles Ca. and soon to retire in my beutiful yucatan and form part of this Gringos who love my land manny thanks working gringos my house is your house..feel like home becouse I feel like home in LA. but I missed my yucatan.I want to own a house in yucatan,
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Working Gringos 16 years ago
Dear Leighton,
As you can imagine, a lot of photography happens in Yucatan, and there are many photographers, both local and foreign, who would probably be a market for your services. There is a growing number of digital printers in Merida, but it is our understanding that many photographers send their work to Mexico City to receive the highest quality service. These are generally photographers who intend to display their work in museums or galleries. If you marketed your business to the entire Peninsula, including Cancun and the Rivera Maya, you would probabaly have a good income (by Mexican standards), but we always recommend that any new business startup have enough capital to survive for two years while establishing itself. Best of luck.
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Leighton 16 years ago
Dear WG's
My wife and I have been seriously considering a major relocation and after being introduced to Merida by a client we have found your sight to be informative and enticing. Presently we own and operate a high quality digital lab in Oklahoma City producing high quality wide format digital prints and fine art reproductions, "giclees", for various businesses and artists throughout the state and the country. Reading through your site we have been particulary impressed by the large and seemingly expanding art community in Merida and are wondering if you know if such a business currently exisits or what your thoughts might be about establishing one there. We would welcome any insight taht you might have and, please check out our website
to see what we do.
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Working Gringos 16 years ago
Larry,
An income of over $4000 US a month (tax free?) will allow you a comfortable lifestyle here in Merida.
Moving things here is difficult... we did it. In retrospect, we would only move things that are personal (mementos, art, clothes). We would leave our furniture and appliances behind and buy new ones here. The furniture here is designed for this climate and it is good to buy appliances from the place that is going to service them in the future. Check out our article on buying furniture in Merida.
Buying and fixing up a house is the most popular expat pasttime here... go for it!
We love the Centro...for the charm, the convenience and the activities. Other areas you might like include Garcia Gineres, beach communities or the town of Cholul, just outside Merida's Periferico (ring road).
Buena suerte!
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Larry 16 years ago
We love your web site and try to absorb as much info as possible. My wife and I are traveling to Merida for the second time this fall to look at purchasing a home. There are a few questions we would like to ask (possibly redundant) to get a little more info.
If I owned a home and had $50,000 in annual income how well am I living in Merida? We are retired and like a nice home and entertaining and travel but the remainder of our needs are quite simple.
We live on the east coast of the US and are trying to deal with our current belongings and how feasible it is to move them to Merida. We would have the time to drive a truck or trailer. It is difficult to get rid of everything but it may make the most sense. Any info on this process would be very helpful.
Real Estate - we are open to buying a fixer upper and paying to have it redone. It looks to be a reasonable option in regards to price and time. Any thoughts?
We are thinking about looking exclusively in the Centro area. Should we be looking also in a second area of town? I realize this is a very personal decision but thought I would get some other opinions.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Larry
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lady light 17 years ago
i just returned from playa completely head over heels with the idea that mexico is a dream that i can make into reality. you happened to be my first stop in the beginning of my research and can i just say the magic is so present! i am very happy that you have decided to share with the rest of us one of the many ways to live as an expat. you've given me a good foundation to add upon and i've only begun to check out your sight! but as i do, i'd just like to extend my gratitude. muchas muchas gracias.
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denise&ryan 17 years ago
Thinking of you guys. The site looks wonderful...talk to you soon!
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drive 17 years ago
Just read this for the first time, and the house (home) blog too. Great fun ewok! ;+}
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jaime luis 17 years ago
thanks so much for this site...we love MERIDA!, too...one question: you often have wonderful photos of architecture...a hacienda or building or some beautiful detail or landscape...it would be great to know what we're looking at...(maybe label is hidden or accessed in a specific way?) anyway thanks for the beautiful images (often on front page)!
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