Working Gringos

Working Gringos

8 November 2016 Interviews & Editorials 79

Editor's Update:

Now that the US election is over, we know more and more people are thinking that maybe living outside the United States would not be such a bad idea. We love the United States but we also think that living outside of it, for some amount of time or the rest of your life, is a great idea. Because there is nothing more refreshing than a new perspective. There's nothing that makes you feel younger like learning a new culture and language. There is really nothing that compares with going outside your comfort zone to explore new horizons and opportunities. With that in mind, here is what we were thinking and feeling ten years ago in 2006, four years after we moved out of the United States, four years before this happened.


The following is the first of a series of interviews with expatriates living in the Yucatan. We decided that in all good faith we couldn't ask our friends and acquaintances to answer these questions if we hadn't answered them ourselves. So we are our first interviewees:

YL: When did you move to the Yucatan, where did you move from and why did you move here?

Working Gringos: We moved from California in January of 2002. We had recently lost our jobs at an Internet development company and were trying to start our own thing when the World Trade Center in New York was attacked. That put a stop to just about everyone's business development. For a long time nobody wanted a website and every business in our industry was laying off, not hiring. We had to find work and we had to move to find it.

We call ourselves dot bomb refugees.

We ruled out the San Francisco Bay area and other major technology centers because there was a surplus of workers and the cost of living there was too high. We ruled out Bakersfield and many other inexpensive places because, well..., if we need to explain then you wouldn't be reading this.

We finally decided to make a virtue of necessity and cast our net world-wide. Thanks to the worldwide web we could do that more easily than ever. We made a short list of what we wanted in a new home. Here it is:

1. A place were we can make a living
2. Beautiful house we can own outright
3. Tropical and/or European ambiance
4. Close to scuba diving
5. Learn a second language
6. Live more lightly on the planet (our private code phrase for "eco-friendly and cheap")
7. Be within a day's flight of our family

YL: Why did you choose Merida over other places in the world?

Working Gringos: It met all of our criteria and more. We've traveled around the world. We thought of Tuscany, Bali, Costa Rica, the island of Roatan, but none of these quite worked for us. The combination of Mayan, Spanish, Caribbean and Gulf cultures makes Merida unique. It's also the closest place to the United States that is the most unlike it. And you can make a living here and live for much less.

YL: Did you know you were going to be working when you moved here?

Working Gringos: Yes, we essentially moved our nascent Internet development company here, bringing all of our computer and photographic equipment with us. Besides, we're not sure what retirement looks like.

YL: Are you doing now what you intended to do when you moved here?

Working Gringos: We are doing more than we intended. We figured we would make a few websites for people, live on less, and give ourselves more free time. Wishful thinking. There has been much more demand for website development here than we anticipated, as well as photography.

YL: Did you buy a house right away or rent first? Do you think you made the right decision (either way)?

Working Gringos: We bought two houses. We found a renovated colonial-style house where we live now using the Internet. It was another reason we moved here. Another smaller house was recommended to us by the real estate agent here and we turned it into an office. Considering how much these properties have appreciated in value, we think we did the right thing by buying right away. But we do see the value in renting first and getting to know the area before making a commitment.

YL: Now that you live and work here, how do you like it?

Working Gringos: We're never bored!

YL: Would you ever go back?

Working Gringos: We go back at times to visit family. One of us would consider going back if we were suddenly left alone here... but we would always keep one foot here, even if we did go back. Mexico is home now too. We would rather have our family move here. Then there would be little or no reason to go back, except for the occasional bookstore craving (see below). But can you ever really go back? So much has changed in the U.S. since we left...

YL: What are the most striking differences between living here vs. living there (wherever you came from)?

Working Gringos: Socially, the Yucatan is a lot more forgiving. It feels like people here have more liberty, that there is a wider range of opinions and backgrounds. It's not as culturally homogenous. It's also very, very affordable. We were being "gentrified" out of our little town in California. But Yucatan, as Ry Cooder would say, "is a poor man's Shangri-La."

YL: What do you love about living here?

Working Gringos: Not pumping our own gas or having to compare gas prices (editor's note: well, everything changes and that has changed...), paying taxes monthly (it's so much easier), the people, music in the streets at night, tropical weather, weekends at the Caribbean, the diverse culture, the food, learning a new language, the VIP movie theater, our friends, the list goes on...

YL: What do you miss from your "former life"?

Working Gringos: Browsing in bookstores, Starbucks Gingerbread and Pumpkin Lattes (yes, we still think they taste better in the USA...), hiking in the mountains, ginger Altoids, huge selections of black tea at the grocery store, Trader Joe's... It's always something. But we've lived here long enough that when we're back in the States for very long we miss things like fresh habanero salsa, not looking over our shoulder all the time when we're driving (avoiding speeding or parking tickets), Yucatecan food, big piles of rocks. It's an ever-growing list... and there is something about the Yucatan that we miss when we're not here, but we can't put our finger on it. Must be the magic.

YL: What is it like owning and running a business here?

Working Gringos: It's easier than we expected. Demand is high and competition is low. If you're not engaged in a business that has a long tradition in Mexico, then your chances of success are pretty good. That's becoming less true, but we think it's still true.

There is some red tape at the beginning. You have to apply for and maintain the correct visa. You have to itemize any equipment you bring into the country and prove it was either taken back out or destroyed, in other words, that you didn't sell it and dodge import taxes. These days, we just buy our equipment here. Dell, Apple, Canon, etc. all service Mexico. You also need a good lawyer and accountant to watch your back. It's nearly impossible to understand Mexican tax law, but isn't that also true in California? It was for us; except our lawyer and accountant there charged us about 10 times more.

YL: Do you have to do more than one thing to make a living?

Working Gringos: Many people do. It's a tradition here to maintain many different sources of income in case one of them falls on hard times. It's Mexican job security. We probably have four or five different sources of income, but they are all related to marketing somehow.

YL: Do you work as much as you used to "back home" or are your work habits different here?

Working Gringos: We work more than ever. At the moment, it's like drinking from a fire hose. Some of the demand is probably related to the times we live in. The Internet was made for places like Yucatan, which is historically remote and unknown.

On the other hand, we don't have to work in a cubicle battling office politics in some sprawling corporation, wondering if what we're doing even makes a difference. The work here has been more fulfilling. And we can and do take a day off here and there to go exploring or to enjoy a long weekend on the Caribbean. We also seem to have more of a social life here than we did in California, because people take more time for friends and family and socializing here.

YL: Is Merida different for residents than it is for tourists?

Working Gringos: Yes, as residents we see a lot of different areas around Merida that tourists rarely visit. We see the modern side of Merida as well as the remote Mayan villages and "undiscovered" ruins, beaches and haciendas. We've been invited to many social, cultural and private events that tourists don't encounter.

YL: How is your Spanish?

Working Gringos: We're getting there. We can make it in almost any situation without a translator. We don't sound very good, but at least we can understand people and make ourselves understood most of the time. The people here are very helpful, too.

YL: Is the language barrier a problem for you in your day to day life?

Working Gringos: No, not a problem... an opportunity. Really! We learn so much more through the process of taking down the barrier. One interesting thing about the Yucatan is that the majority of people here speak Spanish as a second language. Their first language was Mayan!

YL: What is the one most important piece of advice you would give someone just moving to the Yucatan?

Working Gringos: Be open to magic... it lives here. And if you have a problem with ants, get over it.

YL: Are you a Mexican citizen?

Working Gringos: Not yet.

YL: If you aren't, do you think you will become one?

Working Gringos: Yes.

YL: Why would or wouldn't you?

Working Gringos: If one passport is good, two are better. And being a citizen means we don't have to do the visa renewal thing every year.

YL: How are you treated by Mexicans?

Working Gringos: Embarrassingly well, considering how we treat Mexicans in the United States.

YL: Do you feel resented or welcome?

Working Gringos: 99.99% welcome. While there may be more prejudice against strangers in the Mexican border towns, we don't feel anything like that here. We've even heard locals say that extranjeros treat Yucatecos better than they treat each other. We think that means we aren't as codo (cheap).

YL: What are your plans for the future here?

Working Gringos: One day at a time. The magic works better that way.

YL: Do you see yourself staying?

Working Gringos: Way'a no ne (why ah NO nay). It's Mayan for "here we are".

YL: Do you see your business growing?

Working Gringos: Only as much as we want it to. We'd like to work a little less and enjoy this city and country a little more. There is so much of Yucatan and Mexico left to discover!


Yucatan Living followed this with many more expatriate interviews. Some of those people are still in Merida, some are not. We welcome your comments and any other questions that you have for the people living in the Yucatan.


  • Martha Allen 6 years ago

    I want to move to Merida in 2018. Am coming on Jan 23 for a first visit. I am an artist who specialized in watercolors of the indigenous people of Mexico for 15 years. Travelled regularly to many parts of Mexico until 1995. Am looking to find a roommate and rent. Am only 50% bilingual. I am 74 years old and retired from civil service. If anyone knows someone who needs to share rent, let me know. Thanks, Martha

  • Brian 6 years ago

    Thank you for this great post! My wife and I are planning on moving in 8 months to Merida. We also are moving from California and can not wait to get out.
    my wife is in the Art shipping business and I am in the automotive industry. Not sure how much that will relate to what is offered in Merida.
    Do you have any contacts available for purchasing a home ? Any would be greatly apprdciated.
    Once again I thank you for this post.

  • Kevin O'Shea 6 years ago

    Thanks for the great interview and insight on Merida. I am considering moving from Charleston, SC and Hope that I will find a sales position in due time. I have always been great with customer service and I'm hoping that hotels and service industry jobs will be open to hire someone who is obviously fluent in English and can get by understanding and speaking some BASIC Spanish?
    Any thoughts? I used to teach school 15 years ago and have my BA in Elementary education. Thanks for any suggestions and I hope the magic continues for you and your wife for for the rest of your lives.

  • Ken 6 years ago

    Hello! My wife and I are in love with Mexico and have both when we were younger lived there as well. We enjoy traveling to MX and would like to leave prior to retirement/live in Merida. Are there any suggestions on looking for jobs or possibly employment agencies in the area. My family and I all have dual citizenship and are bilingual. Any suggestions or assistance would be very much appreciated!

  • Mashiara 6 years ago

    I want to thank you for sharing your experience and creating this very informative website. I won't know until the end of the year if I need to relocate my family to Mexico, but if I do, I am no longer afraid. Peace of mind is a beautiful thing. :-)

  • Jenny 6 years ago

    Hola! Muy bonitas sus palabras para Merida. Soy meridana naci y vivo aqui, he venido para saber si existe alguna comunidad de expatriados que sea posible visitar, tengo una amiga de california que vendra de visita en verano y ella quiere visitar estas comunidades, ella esta pensando en mudarse por eso pienso que ella quiere investigar o hablar con alguien para ser orientada. Agradeceria mucho si usted sabe de alguien que nos pueda orientar. De antemano muchas gracias y bendiciones.

    Editor's translation: Hello! Very nice words about Merida. I am born and I live here. I came to this website to find out if there is a community of expats that it is possible to visit. I have a friend from California that will visit during the summer and she wants to visit these communities. She is thinking of moving so I think she wants to investigate or talk to someone to be oriented. I would appreciate it if you know someone who can guide us. Thanks in advance and blessings.

  • Michael McCloud 7 years ago

    I am a singer songwriter from key west. Been playing in the bars here for 35 years. Never been out of work. I am scared to death of what might happen in the US under Trump. Are there any bars in Merida where an accomplished aging guitarist,singer can find work while I slip into retirement. We visited Merida years ago and loved it. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Many thanks

  • Geni Mullins 7 years ago

    Hello, my name is Geni I am a naturopathic Doctor with 30 yrs. experience. I was born in Yucatan, at the age of two my mother moved us to the USA. I just moved back here to Yucatan two months ago in hope to build a Fasting Juicing & Spiritual Retreat for tourist. It hasn't been easy. I am looking for guidance and maybe an investor.

    • carol 6 years ago

      Read your comments and was wondering if you have established a practice in Yucatan yet? Can you suggest any naturopathic/ holistic physicians there for a complete exam, blood work, hair analysis?

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