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Mexico Real Estate Horror Stories

Mexico Real Estate Horror Stories

29 May 2015 Real Estate FYI 164

Nearly every week, we see another article in the press about expatriates buying real estate in Mexico. When we first wrote this article, we had seen one from the Kansas City Star, reprinted from the Wall Street Journal. It was about retired and soon-to-be-retired baby boomers buying real estate in the Yucatan and on the Mayan Riviera.

Here are some excerpts:

A big cadre of American baby boomers looking to retire someplace sunny and cheap is fueling a land rush in the Riviera Maya, an idyllic slice of Mexico’s Yucatan Peninsula... But many land-seekers are encountering obstacles, including skyrocketing real estate prices, confusing laws and con artists... The land rush is occurring at the beginning of a demographic tidal wave. With more than 70 million American baby boomers expected to retire in the next two decades, many without adequate pensions or health plans, some experts predict a vast migration to warmer — and cheaper — climates. Often such buyers purchase a property 10 to 15 years before retirement, use it as a vacation home, and then eventually move there for most of the year. Developers increasingly are taking advantage of the trend, building gated communities, condominiums and golf courses...

Mexico, already thought to be home to as many as 1 million American citizens, or roughly a quarter of all U.S. expatriates, is set to get the lion’s share of new arrivals...

No place has boomed in recent years like the state of Quintana Roo in Mexico’s far southeast corner. Anchored by the high-rise resort destination of Cancun at one end and cosmopolitan Playa del Carmen an hour to the south, Quintana Roo is the country’s fastest-growing state, with over a million residents. An estimated 1,500 to 3,000 American citizens live there more than six months out of the year...

If you read the article in its entirety, you'll see a lot of references to "unscrupulous" deals, "problems", "obstacles", "confusing laws" and "con artists". There's the developer in Baja California who sold condos built on ejido land and afterwards all the tenants were evicted. There's a couple near Puerto Vallarta who lost their ocean view when local Mexican developers built a resort between their beach house and the water. There's a woman near Tulum who put a down payment on ejido land but then disappeared for three years and the seller assumed she was dead, so he reoccupied it. But she wanted it back. Then a dead body showed up on the property.

Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

Not Kansas, Kanasin...

It's true that we are not in Kansas anymore, but like "The Wizard of Oz", all of the news stories we read seem to reuse the same actors in a rather familiar plot. Act I: Gringos are moving to Mexico in record numbers. Act II: Mexico is a lawless land where it is "not uncommon" for Gringos to be duped, or worse (insert the same two or three examples from above). Act III: Let these cautionary tales serve as a warning. Act IV: Here's what you need to know to avoid being "victimized" (i.e. "there's no place like home").

It never fails to amuse us how the Press relies on fear to sell papers, in this case portraying Mexico as such a dangerous, lawless and corrupt country. We have purchased five properties in Mexico. Four are here in the Yucatan Peninsula and one is in the state of Michoacan. We have many clients who are real estate agents, and through them we are personally aware of scores of real estate transactions among the hundreds conducted here each year. In over ten years of living here now, we have only heard of two or three "unscrupulous" deals out of a thousand.

Frustrating Process

That's not to say we haven't met several expatriates who were frustrated by the process of buying property in Mexico. Many of these are head-strong, impatient types who bring their own ideas of what the rules should be and don't take no for an answer, even though that is one word we share with Spanish. Mexico is a different culture that speaks a different language and has different laws arising from a different history. There is much to learn and we always recommend you don't go it alone. Even after living here for as long as we have, knowing the people we know and having our experience, we would never consider buying or selling a property in Mexico without the two most important ingredients: a Mexican accountant and a Mexican lawyer. And for most of the time, we would throw in that third almost-essential ingredient, a knowledgeable Mexico-based real estate agent.

Por Ejemplo...

For example, ejido land causes "problems" for those who don't understand it. The majority of Mexico's population is Native American or "indigenous". They were not killed or herded off to reservations like in the United States. During the Mexican Revolution, the government took land away from large haciendas that had acquired it illegally and placed it in trust to the indigenous inhabitants who had lost it. This land is technically owned by the Mexican Government but used by local indigenous communities. In recent years, laws have been enacted that allow the heirs of the original families to whom the land was entrusted to privatize and sell it, but the process can take years as each interested party is tracked down for their signature. If you deal directly with a member of an ejido, he or she has the right to take a down payment in return for a promesa, or agreement to sell you his share after it is privatized. He or she will undoubtedly offer you a great price. You may be tempted. But it is a highly speculative deal because the ejido may never be privatized, at least not in your lifetime. We suggest you do not even consider this kind of deal. But if the Mexican citizen in question has lived through the division of the ejido and has a clear title, then go for it. Some of the best property we know of has been purchased that way.

Obtain the Basics

We have heard of several cases where expatriates without a clue try to deal directly and end up stymied or frustrated. In general, they are over-confident and trying to find a "better" deal and avoid paying a commission. For most of us, this is not a good idea. Find a good real estate agent who has references. He or she will hook you up with a good Mexican lawyer (called a notario), and if you need one, an accountant (called a contador). They will help you learn what to expect and how to follow the rules. Then, follow the rules. In many places in Yucatan (and throughout Mexico), you will have to purchase your land through a bank trust (called a fideicomiso). We suggest you might consider a fideicomiso even if you are in the zone where you don't have to. It will ensure you a clear title and it offers some tax advantages, too. Within 50 kilometers of the coast, it is required by law. There are some rumblings in Mexico City that they may be doing away with the fideicomiso requirement, but as of late 2015, that has not happened.

Booming From Coast to Coast

What the Kansas City Star says about the real estate boom in Playa del Carmen, Tulum and Cancun is definitely being seen here in Merida as well. You cannot drive down a street in Merida for more than three blocks in the centro historico of Merida without seeing at least one major colonial renovation going on. And of course, most of the people paying for those renovations are coming from the United States, Canada or elsewhere, because most local Yucatecos with money wouldn't dream of living in el centro. Just like in the United States 30 years ago, they are moving out to the suburbs, either in gringo-like, ranch-style homes or in gated communities like La Ceiba, the Yucatan Golf Club or Xcanatun residential communities, or even those high-rise Yucatan Country Towers in the Alta Brisa neighborhood.

Meridanos are selling the homes of their tias (aunts) and abuelas (grandmothers) to the incoming expatriates, who are salivating at the beauty and potential of these old colonial homes. In the USA of course, you can't find these stone-walled, tile-floored homes with high, beamed ceilings and arch-lined corridors for love or money, let alone for the price of a down payment on a tract home in California.

Despite the somewhat negative tone of most news articles, they often do tell a "rare" success story. The Kansas City Star story talks about the abandoned mansion of the famous and now deceased drug lord Pablo Escobar, that was turned into the Amansala Hotel and EcoResort by a resourceful gringa. That was a few years ago now, and that was just the beginning. The beach in Tulum is now rimmed with a plethora of successful small hotels with restaurants, sushi bars and yoga studios, Playa del Carmen and other beach communities are still growing like crazy and even Merida is becoming hip and popular (see link below).

So hundreds of Americans, Canadians and people from around the world, maybe thousands, are buying homes annually in Merida or on the nearby beaches of the Yucatan Gulf Coast for retirement, vacation rental income and investment. And more and more of those are moving down here every year. We have heard recently that over 7,000 expatriates live in Merida, a surprising number if you believe the 1,500-3,000 on the Mayan Riviera. Frankly, we did not think those numbers were accurate when that article was written (too low) and they have risen steadily since then.

We Working Gringos are just the visible tip of the Yucatecan expatriate iceberg, so to speak. An iceberg that has grown exponentially since this article was written and shows no signs of melting, even in this tropical heat!

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Comments

  • Parag Sharma 8 years ago

    Hi,
    I am in Merida now staying in a vacation rental in Centro Historico. I am here with family for a week visiting from USA. This is our 4th trip to Mexico in about 8 years.
    Merida is a beautiful city but I was surprised to see many homes for sale and a fewer but noticeable number of abandoned properties (or at least in disrepair) right in the Centro area. You see a huge and well maintained colonial house and then either a for sale sign or overgrown lawn right next to it. I was wondering if there is an explanation for this.

  • Nicholas Murphy 8 years ago

    Hi, I just came back from a work trip/vacation to Cancun and I am in love with the Yucatan! I just turned 41 (celebrated my birthday there) do you have any advice on how to begin the property search and buying a property down there? Is 5 years to soon? or is that a reasonable idea?

    Thanks,

    -Nick

    • Lucy 7 years ago

      Hi Nicholas Murphy, my husband and I had traveled and stayed in several cities in Mexico before we settled on buying in the Yucatan. We were too young to retire full time so we purchased a vacant lot. That way we could build the house that we wanted when we were ready to retire and become permanent full-time residents. We have never regretted our decision. Some people do not want to bother with the up-keep of beachfront living, but we love it. Many people buy an existing home and renovate the home, but there can be issues remodeling an old home. Some people stay for vacations and rent their home part-time using a property management team. There is also the option to purchase condominiums along the beach cities. Good luck in your search for your retirement home.

  • Monica 8 years ago

    Hello. I am not yet ready for retirement but am just about to purchase a country home outside the restricted zone in Seye. The horror stories are scaring me a little. I have a legit real estate agent and I have made an offer to the owner. I will give him a down payment and then payments over the next 2 years. An attorney should be able to write up this agreement. Any advice? I plan to rent the place through a management company until I'm ready to live there.
    Is crime a problem?

    • Allan 8 years ago

      Hi Monica,

      I, along with previous property purchasers, have used Alonso Hernandez in Merida. You can link to him via this real estate site: http://www.yucatanbeachandcityproperty.com/content/lawyers

      Alonso has an outstanding reputation and is very thorough in explaining the laws of Mexico to new Expate buyers. Although we have yet to purchase a property in Yucatan, Alonso has been very helpful (and most inexpensive) in answering all of our questions.

      Let the buyer beware is always a good credo to follow.

      All the best!

      Allan

    • Debi 8 years ago

      hmmm...think I will just rent for awhile :(

  • cathy Dupree 8 years ago

    I live in Ajijic which is beautiful but want to give another slant on living in Mexico.
    I am leaving after 5 years because my partner died and the mess that was left with no will was magnified by the corrupt police and dishonest lawyers, helpers etc. that populate this land. In front of my eyes my partner's possessions just vanished. I have never seen so many scams, scam artists etc that are waiting to jump on the retirees. I live in a beautiful house but feel as though with the security system and bars, bars, bars that I am living a life of a bird locked in a gilted cage. The robberies are out of sight and I am not talking about just gringos. My door knobs were stolen off my outside doors. Honest Mexicans also complain about being robbed constantly if they are not vigilant. I lived in Africa for 10 years and never encountered so much dishonestly. Mexicans will swear on the bible, lie in front of lawyers about being honest with tears in their eyes. They borrow money for grandparents that have died triple times without any intention of paying back. The acting should be given an award alone. Retired people should be warned. Yes benefits such as cheap living can be had but no thanks, I value freedom. I could not even ride my bicycle in a predigous community on a bike path without a Mexican trying to knock me over to steal the bike and it was not an expensive bike. Those thinking of retiring in Mexico should know the risks. There are many positives like cheap living, excellent health care and friendly people.

    • Matthew 8 years ago

      Wow, thx for posting. Is it any better on the Yucatan Peninsula? Seems that's where a lot of Americans are flocking...

      • Niki 8 years ago

        Allan, I am planing to move to Chelem or Merida. Love to get your info and your advice if you dont mind.
        Thanks
        Niki

      • Allan 8 years ago

        I certainly can't speak about living/owning in Mexico for 5 years but can attest that I have worked out of/around Merida, Yucatan for 20 years and am in the process of purchasing a property in Chelem with my partner....leading to retirement years.

        My experience has been exactly opposite of that of Cathy.

        I have observed, and experienced, that the Yucatecan people are some of the most warm , and honest, people I have ever met (have worked in a lot of placed around the world, but never Africa) and they go out of their way to help foreigners vs. rip them off. Yes, there are bars of some home's windows and shards of glass imbedded in compound walls, but have not experienced anything but kindness and honesty. As with my own small town Canadian locale, there are criminal elements that blur the landscape.

        Just today, I was driving the beach road of Chelem, when I came abreast with a municipal police officer in his cruiser. I greeted him and attempted (in my broken Spanish) to tell him I was looking for a specific address. He smiled politely and then escorted me to the exact address, got out of his car, shook my hand and said "Welcome to Chelem, I hope you will be a resident soon and I am here to protect you".

        I have also engaged a referenced, and well regarded, attorney in the city of Merida. His name is Alonso Hernandez and I have been completely amazed at his honest and integrity in explaining the foreign home ownership laws of Mexico. His fees are ridiculously low (compared to Canada) and I have a number of friends and family who have secured his services in the past few years, when purchasing property.....find a good attorney!

        The Mayan coast is much different than most parts of Mexico in that the lifestyle is MUCH slower and the pace of life is very simple. The locals simply want to live their lives making those around them happy and tending to their family needs. I am greeted daily with smiles and warm sentiments when I walk the beach or in the small town. I try to give back as much as I receive.

        I have concerns about the future US/Mexican relationship with DJT at the helm and can only hope that we are able to still be received well in this very welcoming area of Mexico.

        We need to remember that we are the visitors here.

        A

  • Charlie Pycraft 8 years ago

    My family have been going to Mexico for nearly 40 years and always loved it. My father loved it so much that he bought some beach land in El Cuyo, Yucatan. This land has been stolen off us by Alonso Huerta Heredia and Fernando Alonso de la Cámara Thomas with the help of Notary Public, Francisco Javier Acevedo Macari and sold illegally to Ariel Efren Medina Medina, Hector Morales Caceres and José Gabriel Raz Mogeul. So be careful as we have a long history of dealing with un scrupulous lawyers.

    • Xavier 8 years ago

      Charlie, can you explain how that was possible?

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